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Strange search phenomenon

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Hello!

I've stumbled upon something strange.
I've got a task called "Friedhof" and I tried to search for Friedhof in both the web and iOS version. It comes up with a list of totally unrelated tasks that don't contain that word at all. Other searches work just fine on both web and iOS version.
What is the problem here? Could you please check?

Best wishes
Silvia

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Clyde Romo staff
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 12:52 UTC

Hi Silvia,

I tried searching "Friedhof" on my own personal tasks and it returned tasks that are due this Friday. Can you please confirm if that's what's happening on your end?

Regards,

Clyde

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Silvia premium
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 12:54 UTC

Hello Clyde!

Youre right. The search seems to see the first three letters, assumes I mean Friday, ignores the extra letters and searches on.

Could this be fixed? Its rather inconvenient.

Best wishes
Silvia

Clyde Romo staff
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 12:57 UTC

Hi Silvia,

I have brought this up already and I'll let you know what I find out. I will definitely let you know once I have more info. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards,

Clyde

David Trey staff
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 13:08 UTC

Hello Silvia,

That's the correct default behavior. Our search function puts a priority on shortcuts for inconvenience.

If you need to search for a word that would match our fri* wildcard (or any other), please use q: for example:

q:friedhof

The q: prefix will always force an in-task name search and ignore any shortcuts.


Best regards,
David

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Silvia premium
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 13:47 UTC

Hello David!

Except that the help section says - and I copy from the german version:

Aufgabensuche
Todoist Premium ermöglicht es Ihnen, Text nach Aufgaben und Notizen zu durchsuchen. Geben Sie dafür einfach den gesuchten Text in die Suchbox ein. Für eine vollständige Textsuche können Sie auch q: nutzen.

There's no mention of "priority on shortcuts" or "you can't search for words that start with shortcuts". Plus it just says "use q: for full text search".

Is the documentation just wrong? That would be highly dissapointing.

Best wishes
Silvia

David Trey staff
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 14:05 UTC

Silvia,

It's exactly as the documentations says:

"Für eine vollständige Textsuche können Sie auch q: nutzen."

In general, we wanted to explain it in simple terms and it's true that you can search for any word without any syntax and use q: for a full text-only search, which implies that q: should be used if you just want to search for text-only and not other queries such as "priority 1" because in this case you'd need to use q:priority 1 if you want to find a task that contains the text "priority 1" and not is a p1 task. We've also shown numerous examples of searches such as p1, overdue, today, 7 days and explain what they do.

We will consider clarifying it and we're working on a more detailed FAQ that may contain more technical details how some things work. We're sorry for the misunderstanding.


Best regards,
David

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Silvia premium
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 14:20 UTC

Hello David!

An FAQ would really reduce this misunderstandings. You'll have so much less questions about "expected behaviour".

So, to get to understand better: Are there any more shortcuts beside the days of the week?

Best wishes
Silvia


David Trey staff
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 14:26 UTC

Silvia,

Yes, all of those mentioned here: https://todoist.com/Help/Filtering and here: https://todoist.com/Help/DatesTimes

In general, everything date-related that Todoist will understand in the "due date" field, will also work in the search bar and that includes things like "mon", "tue", "wed"... and pretty much any numbers. If you type just 12 into the bar, it will show you tasks on the next available 12th day of the month (12th April, in this case). But again, using q:12 will force a text search for task and notes that contain 12 in their names.

We hope our FAQ will clarify a lot of things, we plan to have the most commonly asked questions clarified there along with some other tips and maybe even user stories how different features can be beneficial for different workflows :-)


Best regards,
David

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Silvia premium
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 14:30 UTC

Hello David!

Ok, so just to clarify: Anything I can enter as "due date" will also win over plain text search in the search window?
I assume its the same for filters?

Best wishes
Silvia

David Trey staff
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 14:33 UTC

Silvia,

That's correct... well, at least for shortcuts that make sense as a date, such as "fri" for "friday". Shortcuts such as "ev" for "every" won't win because you can't filter for any date that would be "every" anyway. So days, months, numbers and priorities will have the upper hand.


Best regards,
David

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Silvia premium
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 14:39 UTC

Hello David!

That's good to know. I just checked and it works in the iOS version, too. Speaking of the iOS version, I noticed that there's no help available in the search function - perhaps something short, like in the due date section, might be possible there, too? I'm sure it would reduce the number of misunderstandings, too!

Best wishes
Silvia

David Trey staff
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 14:45 UTC

Silvia,

We're keep that in mind, we continuously improve our apps on all platforms so this could be added in the future (maybe as a button showing content from the FAQ, we'll see).


Best regards,
David

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Silvia premium
Replied on Apr 08, 2014 - 15:23 UTC

Hello David!

That would be really helpful. I'll keep an eye out for it :-)

Best wishes
Silvia