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Task Start Date

GB

Hey Folks,
Could you kind folks please add a start date to a task please? Sometimes, a task needs to finished by a certain date but can only start once something else has finished.

Many thanks!
Greg

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DS premium
Replied on Feb 21, 2014 - 10:32 UTC

That would be great. I don't want to look at tasks before I can actually do them.

David Trey staff
Replied on Feb 21, 2014 - 13:15 UTC

Hello,

Technically, we already support start days, but as much as they will affect your today, 7 days or any date-based view, the task will not disappear within a project otherwise you wouldn't even be able to modify it should the due date be changed.

To set a start date, please use "starting" in the date formula, for example:
- Every day starting in 10 days
- Every Fri starting 14/3
- ev 2nd Mon at 2pm starting 10 Mar


Best regards,
David

GB
Greg Boland premium
Replied on Feb 21, 2014 - 20:18 UTC

Hey David,
Thanks for your reply. Combersone but it will do just fine!

Cheers!
Greg

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Sarah
Replied on Apr 19, 2014 - 11:00 UTC

I'm confused. Why is David talking about recurring tasks?

David Trey staff
Replied on Apr 20, 2014 - 21:34 UTC

Hello Sarah,

I've mentioned recurring tasks because these are the ones that already support start days. If you want a task to start then it's a task that takes more than one action (otherwise it's a one-time task).

That said, you can set a task to "every day starting 30 May" or "every Monday starting in 7 days". You can't set a task to "tomorrow starting today".


Best regards,
David

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Sarah
Replied on Apr 21, 2014 - 07:07 UTC

Hello David,

Thanks for your reply. I understand. What you meant to say is that in general you don't support start date with the exception of recurring tasks.

There are a lot of comments for the "start date suggestion" from some years ago. Are you working on this? Will there be a start date functionality soon?

Thanks,
Sarah

David Trey staff
Replied on Apr 21, 2014 - 11:10 UTC

Sarah,

We're currently not working on this, but we may consider it in the future.


Best regards,
David

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Ander
Replied on May 05, 2014 - 22:41 UTC

Definitely, the starting date is the only feature missing in Todoist. I work with many tasks that I cannot start until a certain day. It's something paramount in a task manager!

Anirban Kundu premium
Replied on May 27, 2014 - 15:52 UTC

Please implement the start date feature . Was a Thinkng Rock user and future tasks became active on a given day.... say "Wish Mr. X Happy birthday on so and so date " and only on the specified date would the task be seen in due today.
.Also, start an action when some other action is complete as well, especially sub tasks that work in sequence.

Regards.

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EL premium
Replied on Jun 12, 2014 - 18:26 UTC

This is absolutely ridiculous. How difficult can it be to simply add support for start dates? Despite all the requests and lengthy posts from your paying customers explaining the need for start dates for YEARS, you are still not doing ANYTHING about it.

http://todoist.com/Vote/show/6505/

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Ander
Replied on Jun 12, 2014 - 22:33 UTC

+1

TB
Trevor Bidle premium
Replied on Jun 14, 2014 - 18:36 UTC

Please consider this as a feature. It is the difference of me being able to use this and having to go back to omnifocus.

ME
Michael E. Rubin premium
Replied on Jun 16, 2014 - 23:48 UTC

I agree that Start Date would be an excellent addition to Todoist. I would even pay a little extra for the feature. It's absolutely central to the Manage Your Now methodology put forward by Michael Linenberger (author of Master Your Workday Now with Outlook).

Until then, here's another solution:
http://ptbr.todoist.com/Support/show/24436/

MF
Martin Fink
Replied on Jun 20, 2014 - 06:40 UTC

+1, would love to have it!

Shannon Hush premium
Replied on Jun 20, 2014 - 09:09 UTC

I also vote on this as a MUST!

CO
Christopher Ogden
Replied on Jul 13, 2014 - 21:12 UTC

+1

JG
Joao Guimaraes
Replied on Jul 14, 2014 - 04:21 UTC

The lack of this feature is stopping me from going premium.

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EL premium
Replied on Jul 14, 2014 - 04:33 UTC

This feature has been requested for years. I wish I could point you to the request in votebox but unfortunately the votebox has been deleted. I don't even think the developers are even at the stage of considering implementation. Don't hold your breath.

IB
Ian Bicking
Replied on Jul 14, 2014 - 18:46 UTC

The goal for this, IMHO, would be that you not have to see a todo item until the start date. Then I could add a task like "renew foo.com domain" and set the date for sometime not too long before the domain expires, and I wouldn't have to have that todo item sitting around bugging me until the start date.

TP
Trish Putnam premium
Replied on Jul 14, 2014 - 19:39 UTC

+1

DK
Douglas Kurn
Replied on Jul 29, 2014 - 13:15 UTC

I've had to go back to Omnifocus for this, but hate their new UI and so am still on OF1. Would come back if this was implemented.

Márcio Abreu premium
Replied on Aug 04, 2014 - 09:52 UTC

I need the start date too.

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jtaylor
Replied on Aug 06, 2014 - 22:33 UTC

+1

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Denis premium
Replied on Aug 08, 2014 - 07:11 UTC

Star date feature was one of highest demanded features when votebox was active and still is. (still don`t understand what is the reason of disabling votebox)

I`m joining the request.

Thanks.

MF
Martin Fink
Replied on Aug 08, 2014 - 09:19 UTC

Can't plus 1 this enough!
Is there any update regarding the status of start date implementation? Will it come? If yes, when?

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jtaylor
Replied on Aug 08, 2014 - 12:04 UTC

I don't really understand the resistance to implementing this. The idea of deferral/start dates is so key to GTD. I subscribed to premium to see if I could make reminders or a recurring events kludge work, but it's really not good workflow. Doubt I'll be staying on todoist without this. Too bad, really--in many ways it's very good.

MC
Michele C premium
Replied on Aug 13, 2014 - 20:36 UTC

I'm so bummed that this isn't a feature. I'm also coming from another program that implemented this. I used it all the time.

I understand that there are the workarounds but I REALLY don't want to see the tasks at all until I can act on them.

+1 !!!!!!!

WT
Wayne Tranchon premium
Replied on Aug 13, 2014 - 22:58 UTC

I agree with everyone. The lack of this feature is a show stopper for me. I was planning to have my entire team across North America use this App but not until this is remedied. Not just a start date, but a contingency start date. For example, this task will start once a different task is completed. No use starting a task that isn't ready yet.

Shannon Hush premium
Replied on Aug 13, 2014 - 23:11 UTC

Totally agree with Wayne. I paid for the app, but not committing to it in the future unless this change occurs in the same as Wayne explained it.

FR
Fraser Robertson premium
Replied on Aug 14, 2014 - 15:28 UTC

Start date is a big one for me too. I use my ToDo list as a work plan for the day and if there is a task that will take multiple days to complete I want to see it in the today view each day up until it's due date at which point it needs to show up as overdue

KR
Kriston Rucker premium
Replied on Aug 18, 2014 - 14:51 UTC

Ditto all the above!

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A/M
Replied on Aug 20, 2014 - 22:24 UTC

+1

Was about to pay, when i found out it doesn't support start dates…

HUGE disappointment

hj3604 premium
Replied on Aug 21, 2014 - 00:12 UTC

Definitely need this feature. it's crucial for project managers to be able to set a period(start / end date) of the tasks

DS
Dave Smith premium
Replied on Aug 22, 2014 - 02:08 UTC

Can't go across town til you've gone across the street, this is critical. We have multiple tasks lasting multiple days, all on CPM critical path method...meaning can't do the next task until this one is done.

Don't sit around and whine, stop paying and drop back to free version til dev team implements this, or move on, other choices are out there.

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A/M
Replied on Aug 22, 2014 - 08:03 UTC

Problem is other choices have their major issues too…

And what's very frustrating is that every softer house is sort of stubbornly attached to some, let me say, religious credo on something (super useful and that everyone is asking for) they won't even consider implementing

See Omnigroup and their stupid single context issue on Omnifocus…

I hope that's not the same case here, i'd really love to give Todoist a try

CB
Christopher Bosse premium
Replied on Aug 29, 2014 - 01:04 UTC

I would also like to see start dates!

Ian Reid premium
Replied on Aug 29, 2014 - 07:28 UTC

Selected Todoist over Omnifocus as it is cross platform (Windows at work Mac at home problem) so would also like to see start (deferral) dates. As well as start consider "Chase" dates the same as in Meeting Gold iPad app. This is a great feature for follow with people before the real due date.

JS
Jörg S. premium
Replied on Aug 29, 2014 - 12:53 UTC

+1

MF
Martin Fink
Replied on Sep 01, 2014 - 07:27 UTC

I stop using Todoist. Reason: no start dates and no reaction or commitment from the dev team to work on it. Sad but ok.

Shannon Hush premium
Replied on Sep 01, 2014 - 09:50 UTC

I also stopped using it. this being one of the reasons and it didn't even work right for me on my Imac and the developers gave up on me so I scraped it. Waste of my money.

ME
Michael E. Rubin premium
Replied on Sep 04, 2014 - 13:54 UTC

Martin, Shannon -- out of curiosity, what did you start using instead?

Phú Võ-Hoàng premium
Replied on Sep 14, 2014 - 11:56 UTC

+1
That is a must-have feature (for GTD work-flow). :-(

Olly
Replied on Sep 16, 2014 - 11:41 UTC

I recently signed up for Todoist premium after trying it for a week. I was really excited about it after coming from Things that is rather dated currently. Unfortunately I just encountered the lack of start dates and I'm really unhappy. The inability to defer a task till a certain start date is infuriating, and clutters the interface. It also makes me want to ask for a refund.

Why not just introduce a 'Deferred' view beneath the active tasks in each project that can be optionally hidden? Deferred tasks are then hidden until the start date when they return to their project.

Currently Todoist is crippled for GTD users...

Olly
Replied on Sep 16, 2014 - 12:04 UTC

Having thought about this a little more, I think it would be great if Tasks or Projects had a 'Defer' button. (I think the term 'start date' is a little confusing - we simply want to be able to defer focusing on the task until a point in the future.)

In addition to being able to defer until a specific date, we could alternatively defer until another Project or Task has been marked as completed. This would simply hide the projects/tasks until preceding tasks have been done.

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Oliver Naumann
Replied on Oct 08, 2014 - 08:43 UTC

+1 right, no GTD without Start Dates (or Ticklers if you like)

Burak Arslan premium
Replied on Oct 08, 2014 - 11:49 UTC

Hi,

we use todoist with team to follow up our projects.

Start date is really important for us. We see only due dates with current view. Sometimes we miss some start dates...

DS
Dave Smith premium
Replied on Oct 08, 2014 - 14:12 UTC

David Trey (Staff)

Ok there is a HUGE DISCONNECT here....I'm afraid staff simply has a different view as to how to schedule tasks.

Every task on the planet is directly tied to another task that one must finish before another starts.

One cant harvest the fruit until the fruit is mature, the fruit cannot mature if the tree is not grown, the tree does not grow until the seed germinates.

You cant start a new task until enough of the ones in progress are done, how long will the existing tasks take when can I START a new task? When can I tell my client we can start that phase....

Start date and duration is CRITICAL, period.

If you have an existing solution / work around to this PLEASE tell us how to do it in detail.

IF not PLEASE reconsider your your products workflow and implement a feature that address this issue.

DS
Dave Smith premium
Replied on Oct 08, 2014 - 14:23 UTC

Research shows this request goes back to August of 2013, there was a vote box to vote for what was most important, that vote box has been closed.

How do we know if we want to keep hoping you may address this. Your product is pretty good but it is bitter sweet....

Unfortunately I Love to Hate this product, not what I would want my clients to feel about the service I provide.

CR
Carol Rose premium
Replied on Oct 08, 2014 - 14:45 UTC

I, too, would really like to have the ability to assign a start date. I develop processes and would like to see in real time, how long they take vs. what they were expected to take.

+1, please!

DS
Dave Smith premium
Replied on Oct 08, 2014 - 15:06 UTC

Exactly Carol

What I would really love would be a graphical display of the scheduled tasks in progress with % completion and up coming tasks.

But I don't want to over task the staff here, LOL

It goes with out saying, I would gladly pay more for such features.

Helloooo David Trey....looks like many need this feature, and are willing to pay more. ;-)

Olly
Replied on Oct 08, 2014 - 15:58 UTC

I just cancelled my Premium account as I have moved to OmniFocus 2 which has defer dates, the ability to set sequential or parallel tasks and a brilliant weekly review tool. I am sad to leave Todoist since there is a lot to love - karma productivity tracking, integration with lots of apps, nice clean design, task collaboration - but until they implement these essential features I have to go elsewhere. As a GTD tool it just doesn't do what I want for now.

MC
Michele C premium
Replied on Oct 08, 2014 - 16:13 UTC

Yep, I regret paying for a year of premium at once. I went back to Omnifocus 2 also. The drag is that I don't have omnifocus on my android phone. But that's how much I need start dates. I'm willing to put up with that.

DS
Dave Smith premium
Replied on Oct 10, 2014 - 16:20 UTC

I will now look into OmniFocus 2. I feel we gave Todoist a fair PAID (to the developers) Beta eval. That's what stings, we paid them to help them develop their product and they don't have the courtesy to monitor the forums and respond, and they drop their vote box..

The saddest thing about all this is 2 individuals I fly with are independent app developers, they say 2-3 head down days of coding would fix this and really integrate a forward looking component to do much more.

This is why I have my suspensions that the development team just doesn't understand the methodology we employ, so the likely hood of this coming to fruition may be quite low.

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EL premium
Replied on Oct 10, 2014 - 16:43 UTC

@Michele @Dave

I too, regret paying for premium and not cancelling my subscription before the trial period is over. The votebox gave me hope, even if it was illusory, that the developers are listening to their users. I held on to that hope only to be let down by their steadfast refusal to implement start dates (I only discovered shortly after my trial expired that start dates have been requested for years) and them shutting down the votebox.

I think any self-respecting task manager that demands to be treated seriously needs to have start dates. The developers are either truly misguided in thinking that it’s not important, or they simply don’t care about the serious users. They’d rather spend time developing the game-y aspects of the service (see the recent updates to the karma points system) than improve the fundamentals. I doubt anyone who is serious about getting things done care about karma points. Which goes to show they are really only interested in the ‘wunderlist’ crowd - people with simple tasks, simple responsibilities and care only about gimmicky things they share on social bloody media.

FYI, I'm currently using OF2 as well. It's far from perfect but it gets the job done for the most part, which is what really matters.

Darek Kay premium
Replied on Oct 10, 2014 - 17:13 UTC

+1

All major task management tools share the same weakness - they all have those 1 or 2 highly demanded features that are ignored by their developers. Instead, they are spending time on neat features like improving the karma system (which is nice, don't get me wrong).

I know, you can't please everyone. But you really should listen to the community, and things like this vote box (which I haven't seen myself) are the way to go.

DS
Dave Smith premium
Replied on Oct 10, 2014 - 17:31 UTC

Maybe if we vectored our precious time to the Omnifocus team they may listen to remedying deficiencies on that application and construct a better product for all.

The vote box was here http://todoist.com/Vote/show/6505/ maybe filling it up too fast crashed the system LOL !

We can only keep trying here too, Todoist is close....just seems to have peanut butter in their ears :-)

TP
Trish Putnam premium
Replied on Oct 10, 2014 - 18:50 UTC

Well, given that they aren't even willing to do the simple things like tell us what they just fixed (for the third time this week) or what they are working on right now (that shouldn't be hard, right?) let alone have even a basic high level roadmap or public backlog, I've come to the conclusion this company is unprofessional and not ready for anything resembling business customers.

I, too, regret that I stuck around rather than canceling within 30 days. The fact that they decided that Karma was worthy of work before the clear and obvious needs of their customers that were called lot time and again in this forum has marked the end for me.

There's much I really like about this product, and I was willing to wait for some of the things I need if there was any evidence that it was in the plan, but their decision to add to what is essentially a fun motivation toy and ignore fixing things which are actually critical path for a professional finished it for me. I'll be (painfully!!) missing my data into a different tool that I can rely on.

Darek Kay premium
Replied on Oct 10, 2014 - 19:35 UTC

I've got a Deja Vu, every time I try out a new task manager. I switched to NirvanaHQ, loved the tool, until I realized that the support didn't answer a single ticket for months. So I moved to Doit.im, loved the tool and was happy to see that support answering tickets withing 1-2 days. Until I've found out, that they withold a backup/export feature on purpose (and how can a system be trustworthy, if I cannot backup my own data?). So I moved here after getting a free 6 month subscription. Again, I really liked it so far, and the support answers tickets within hours. But again, there are two features that are important for my workflow: a real time gcal synchronization (which they are planning to do) and this one here (deferring tasks). I understand that intergration with other services is not a real must for a task manager, but deferring tasks is an absolute must.

I'll stick around until my subscription ends, but if they keep their focus on sharing karma points on twitter instead of essential task management features, then I won't renew my membership..

Joe Luppino-Esposito premium
Replied on Oct 10, 2014 - 22:03 UTC

+1

Olly
Replied on Oct 11, 2014 - 04:13 UTC

There really needs to be a table somewhere that compares the specific feature sets of all the main GTD solutions. Maybe on Wikipedia? I keep encountering apps that I like before discovering a week or so into using them that they are missing a key feature that I used in their competitors app.

Does anybody want to help me create one?

CB
Christopher Bosse premium
Replied on Oct 11, 2014 - 04:28 UTC

Canceling my premium subscription. The biggest issues for me are the complete lack of documentation of updates or changes and the now complete lack of communication from the developer on big issues like start dates.

I've switched to Doit.im and love it. Plus they just rolled out Evernote integration today!

DS
Dave Smith premium
Replied on Oct 11, 2014 - 17:03 UTC

Going out on a limb here....I'm going to give credit to the Todoist developers for not taking down this string which is bashing their product and allowing us to discuss competitors offerings. Don't know how much longer it will last, BUT...if they are not going to provide what we need, it's kind of them to let us help ourselves and share thoughts.

Couple friends suggested a different search term "Project Management", BOOM !! The apps are the types they used before retiring....both before 45 years old, creating apps for mobile devices. Their advice was look at everything, if the app is geared toward construction it's crazy how well it works for software development, forget the labels, find what works for you.

Loads of different apps appearing to be geared more toward the professional "Mover and Shaker" type professional, the get it done cuz I got something more fun to do when I finish, you know ....like a bank deposit :-)

These things have everything we are looking for...maybe not all in one package but some even have Gantt charts, YEPPER "Start Daeeeete" ^_^

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Chris
Replied on Oct 12, 2014 - 02:34 UTC

The only reason I do not use this service is lack of start date support

HM
Harald Martin Aarbogh premium
Replied on Oct 14, 2014 - 19:41 UTC

+1

AV
Ann Van Roy premium
Replied on Oct 19, 2014 - 12:21 UTC

+1 (+11111111)

DM
David McKenzie
Replied on Oct 28, 2014 - 17:19 UTC

I'm a long-time Toodledo user, and was considering jumping ship to Todoist because I like the interface. I'm just glad I found this thread before I paid (which I was about to!), because this is a showstopper for me too.

I have a lot of one-off tasks that I can't start until a certain date, so I don't want them cluttering up my to-do list in the meantime.

I'm reluctantly sticking with Toodledo for now.

Joe Luppino-Esposito premium
Replied on Oct 28, 2014 - 19:27 UTC

Ditto on that point! Toodledo is better suited for GTD, but Todoist has a better interface, apps, widgets, etc. As a recent convert to Todoist, that's a tough adjustment for me, too.

TS
Thomas Seidl premium
Replied on Oct 28, 2014 - 20:23 UTC

Having only read the first 30 posts or so, let me add that in my understanding, the date in Todoist actually is a starting date, at least I use it as such: Tasks appear only if there starting date has come (today or within the next seven days, whatever you select).

Some posts refer to Michael Linenbergers "Master Your Workday Now" (or One-Minute-To-Do-List). It is particularly he who recommends using a system's date as the starting date, and to encode due dates in the task's subject, if needed.

CB
Christopher Bosse premium
Replied on Oct 31, 2014 - 03:58 UTC

Hey everybody! I decided to search the help forum to see if there were any other replies to "Start Date" requests since we have stopped getting replies here. I'm happy to report I found one and I'm excited about what I found! Here's the reply:


David Trey STAFF
Replied on Oct 24, 2014 - 21:47 UTC
Hello John,

We're currently working on rewriting our date parser which, once done, will allow us to add more date formats incl. start dates or "from to", "starting until" types of dates. Though, as always, we can't say when it will be done, we'll work on it until it all works correctly


Regards,
David

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Ander
Replied on Nov 03, 2014 - 09:09 UTC

That would be great if it comes true!
Where did you find that?

AV
Ann Van Roy premium
Replied on Nov 03, 2014 - 09:22 UTC

You can find that reply in this discussion (in the 'Mac department')
https://todoist.com/Support/show/48857/

MF
Mike Fish premium
Replied on Nov 25, 2014 - 16:12 UTC

Wondering when Start Date will be implemented. I've been waiting for over 1 year on this.

MK
markus ka premium
Replied on Nov 25, 2014 - 19:56 UTC

please please I miss that start date from omnifocus and do.it so much, as I probably have to switch back, because having ALL tasks in my list even tho I cant deal with them just stresses too much.

+11111

ME
Michael E. Rubin premium
Replied on Nov 27, 2014 - 17:57 UTC

Hi folks,

If you're looking for the Start Date functionality, I would recommend checking out Toodledo. It's both an online/offline app and syncs across multiple devices. It also syncs with Outlook quite nicely via the third-party gSyncit app, so it works well in a corporate environment (that's how I use it).

There's a free version, but if you're a Premium user looking to switch, there is an account that matches the $29.95 annual cost Todoist is charging.

And it probably goes without saying, but their tech support responds to inquiries and the developers have gone above and beyond to work with GTD, Michael Linenberger, and other productivity methodologies. I know this is a foreign concept to the Todoist team, but they actually listen to their customers.

At your service,
Michael

Disclosure: I have no affiliation with Toodledo except for being an extremely satisfied customer and a very dissatisfied ex-Todoist Premium customer.

:-(

TS
Thomas Seidl premium
Replied on Nov 27, 2014 - 19:04 UTC

Hi all,

I like Toodledo (timer, export, etc.) but I really miss a hierarchical structure for projects there. In Todoist on the other hand I like this structure, and I appreciate the nice interface and the broad availabilty.

My background: I have used Toodledo and completed 992 tasks in 1.3 years. Six months ago I switched to Todoist and completed some 1.020 tasks from 60 projects so far. I use Todoist's date field as start date which works quite fine for me. With Linenberger's 1MTD I had pulled a big backlog of old tasks in Toodledo, now I'm pushing a big "forward-log" in front of me in Todoist, urged by the Karma system to reschedule old tasks. This is not bad in principle, but I am not yet decided which method I'm more convinced of.

Yours,
Thomas

GB
Greg Boland premium
Replied on Nov 27, 2014 - 19:13 UTC

Specially considering that tough competition from Google Keep is round the
corner.

David Humble-White premium
Replied on Nov 28, 2014 - 16:07 UTC

Darek Kay put's it perfectly upthread:

"I'll stick around until my subscription ends, but if they keep their focus on sharing karma points on twitter instead of essential task management features, then I won't renew my membership.."

This. A thousand times.

I'm an Omnifocus refugee (having had to go back to a windows PC at work) and the cross-platform goodness of Todoist is just brilliant (especially the superb Outlook plugin).

But there's always a 'but', isn't there. And with this it was that heart sinking "OH..." moment when I realized it didn't support Start Dates.

I'll stick with it for now. Cross-platform *is* the way to go. But if Todoist really want to steal market share from Omnigroup and Cultured Code, then they're going to have to have the features *and* the compatibility.

It's worth doing in my opinion Todoist - if you're listening - look at what Omnifocus and Things users are prepared to pay for those products. You could have a slice of that pie....

TP
Trish Putnam premium
Replied on Nov 28, 2014 - 16:41 UTC

Hear, hear.

Karma is a cute feature and a differentiator, but it should never come at the expense of features actually required for productivity.

I'm already back to reassessing the available alternatives. There is much to like about Todoist, but there are currently too many missing features that block me from being fully able to rely on the system, and the responsiveness of the staff isn't really enough when the team refuses to provide any guidance on when or even if these critical features might be on the roadmap.

Derviš T. premium
Replied on Dec 01, 2014 - 03:53 UTC

@Thomas Seidl, +1.

I for one consider having "start date" in Todoist absolutely unnecessary and redundant. Why? First, because if there's both a start date and an end date set for a task, what you basically have here is just a sequence of daily repeating tasks, which Todoist already supports, as David explained earlier. And even if we ignore that, Todoist's currently available "due date" is perfectly fine to mark "due date to begin" as it is fit to mark "due date to finish".

1. If I need a "start date" to mark the beginning date for a project – I'll just put the "due date" on the first task of the project to get reminded when it's "due to start". At this point, "due date to finish" the task/project is completely irrelevant. I can mark it though in the title of the task or add a note for later reference when the project actually starts; up to that point, it's meaningless.

2. On the day on which the project is "due to start" (when I find the task with due date from point 1 in my "Today" box), it's time to get things rolling, define a plan of action, and specify at least 2 or 3 next actions. At this point, I can use "due date" again, this time to mark, e.g., the date when a task is "due to end". I mean, I don't need "start date" anymore since the project has just started.

I usually combine the above with labels and filters to further refine what gets displayed and when, so nothing gets past unnoticed, nor the tasks that aren't due for processing get mixed with those that are, wasting my time and energy.

TP
Trish Putnam premium
Replied on Dec 01, 2014 - 04:37 UTC

That may work for your approach. That does not mean it works for everyone. Personally, I prefer to have the ability to explicitly set both start and due dates on my tasks, especially since we also do not have the ability to set dependencies. I can force pseudo dependency by setting the start date of the second task relative to the end date of the first task (ex. First task ends on 2 December, I could set the second task to start on 3 December).

It would be lovely to set a task that occurs over a series of days as a recurring task, but oh, there's that pesky problem that we can't set an end date for a recurring series. Instead, we must remember when the series is supposed to end so we can use a key combo to end the series manually.

I don't know about you, but if I wanted to keep all that kind of thing in my head, I wouldn't bother using a task management system (or a calendar, for that matter!) If you subscribe to the GTD method of task management, the idea is to get all that stuff into your trusted system and out of your head!

So, great if it works for you, but kindly don't lecture the rest of us who are using a different methodology as if your way was the only logical way. It isn't.

MC
Michele C premium
Replied on Dec 01, 2014 - 04:53 UTC

If we use the method of using the due date as a start date to trigger starting the task, doesn't that mean it still shows up? If I were to look at my tasks by label, the task would still show up even though I wouldn't be able to act on it.

The reason I want a true start date is so that I won't even see a task I have no intention on starting yet.

Derviš T. premium
Replied on Dec 01, 2014 - 06:29 UTC

@Trish, it wasn't a lecture, really. There have been some nice comments and ideas in this thread, so I thought I'd throw my two cents, even if opposite to views of others, on one possible approach to the problem, maybe someone finds it useful.

@Michele, tasks must show up somewhere, hiding them completely would be a bad idea. I personally would want to be able to see all my tasks in their respective projects, no matter if they're due already or not.

But, to help you refine what you see and when, labels and filters are great. If you use labels, a simple solution might be not to label at all those tasks which begin in the future. Wait until they are due to start (i.e., they show up in Today box or the reminder you set earlier goes off), and then process them and give them labels. Or you can set a specific label only for future tasks, if you prefer to have everything labelled, so if you need to review them before they're due, you can find them easily; though it might be more effective to define a filter which will show, e.g., only tasks which are over due or due today (if you want to exclude future tasks) or another filter which shows tasks due tomorrow and later (if you want to see only future tasks) or a filter which shows tasks without a date... Any combination of labels, due dates, priorities etc. is possible, which you can adapt to your own way of managing tasks.

JY
Joseph Yang premium
Replied on Dec 01, 2014 - 06:45 UTC

+1 for better start dates and dependencies.

and -1000 for the Karma. Literally zero use for that stuff. The only time I use that is to get to the link to see completed tasks--not how many i've completed, but rather to make sure I did something or to see the notes from a completed task. (That could use some updating to. Too many clicks to see completed tasks in a project. Would be great if that was a button available in each project to see all the tasks completed in the last x time and with y labels. Thx!)

Emil Bryggare premium
Replied on Dec 01, 2014 - 12:25 UTC

+1 for better start dates. Migrated from OmniFocus and this is something I'm missing.

HS
Helmut Sins
Replied on Dec 07, 2014 - 13:33 UTC

+1