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Significant feature enhancements/fixes (Sorting)

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Without Sorting or giving me control, this app is worthless! I will not work with a tool that refuses to show my my tasks in the order I want. My highest priorities on page 5 of all my tasks is ridiculous! I also will never spend the hours manually ordering my tasks, that would require a task by itself and that is a waste of time! I could care less of synced sort, the app on the device I am working has enough power and has a computer, it should do the sorting the way I want it at this moment, not a fixed sorting mechanism that is synced!! If you want fixed sorting, then a internal order variable should be good enough to sync and sort on the device when that device is set into manual sort mode. But really, A good sort option should take care of this!

This should be available for all client devices regardless of platform!
Where is the settings option that allows me to set my sort order how I want this device? I could care less what my android is when I am on Windows. I want absolute control where I am and when I want it!

Oh you don't have a status field. Task/Project management 101. When I am "waiting on someone else", why should that task be #1 (top) in my list????

I want at the top of the app, the option to have a control that allows me change me ordering very easily (these options)
-Project Name/Task Priority/Level/Status (my new field)
-Task Priority/Level/Status
-Manual Order (synced across all devices)
- Due Date/Task Priority/Level/Status
- Due Date/Project/Task Priority/Level/Status
- Customer (let me setup a special sort based on the fields.

Just a FYI, I will not use this product until the sort order is fixed and I am going back to Outlook task manager which is 1000% better and managing task (but its only Windows). I am looking at other products now because of this alone too :-(

Sad, since project/task management has been around for 1,000s of years. Even sadder, Outlook is one of the only true management products and they have been doing it for 10+ years. Why would the developers not look at it and see what really is the bar for what should be offered?

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David Trey staff
Replied on Feb 13, 2014 - 15:47 UTC

Hello Michael,

Our app fully support custom sorting within a project and partially within the today or 7 days view where manual reordering is available for tasks within the same priority group.

That said, within a project, simply hit the "s" key to sort tasks by date or "p" to sort them by priority. You can manually reorder them as you wish and the order will always stay and even sync.

On the today view or other date-based view, tasks are sorted automatically by date, time, priority, custom order. That is - tasks with no time and the same priority can be rearranged within their priority group.

You can change the tasks properties by right-clicking on it. You can set a status with a @waiting label, left-clicking on a task enters edit more where you can hit TAB to quickly get to the date field.

If that's not how it works for you, please clarify in what view exactly are you trying to sort your tasks and when do they resort themselves back.


Best regards,
David

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michael01.bower
Replied on Feb 14, 2014 - 11:17 UTC

I have no idea what you are talking about. There is absolutely NO sorting options on the iPad , Android or Windows (browser) versions other than manual. You get what the system represents to you otherwise TFB or you must manually sort things. I do NOT want to manually sort them ever! That is what priorities, dates and projects are for!

There is no keyboard mode on iPad not Android, so typing S... You can not!

Ok, maybe within a single project maybe, I don't work within a single project otherwise I found many other products that do that perfectly. So my view of my tasks is always across multiple projects (ok lets not kid ourselves this is not like a corporate project manager), way to many features missing. But different work and home things this is perfect.

What do I want: Control to choice what I want, not what a developer wants! Hence choose between multiple sorting options!

All platforms: Android, iPad and Windows

With the views: 7 Day, Today, View All, No Due Date, Assigned to me or others:
- Sort by Priority (disregarding all other fields: project or Due Date)
- Sort by Due Date then Priority
- Sort by Project, Due Date, Priority


Currently on my iPad in the No due date view, there is no sorting. Priority 1 are first then priority 3, then priority 4, then priority 2. Ok, now that makes sense!

On my Android & Windows (Browser version), it gets the priorities in the correct order for the view: No due date.

In the Project view: Windows (Browser) the sorting does NOT work at all! When I change the sorting capability on the right settings, it does nothing! It has them in the wrong order for any of the options. I.e. is just does not work at all!

Windows: Browser version - I can not complete a task? Yes I can delete it, but not complete. Does this mean when its completed you delete and you can never see/report on what has been done?

FYI, I am using the latest Chrome browser.

David Trey staff
Replied on Feb 14, 2014 - 13:26 UTC

Michael,

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, you've posted it in the Windows section and didn't mention iPad before. It's true that there's no sorting option on our mobile apps yet, but we'll surely consider implementing it in future updates.

On Windows (all browsers, desktop apps and plugins), you can sort tasks within a project either by using "p" to sort by priority or choosing one of the sort options from the "Task actions" menu (at the top of the list within a project).

We're sorry for the bug in the iOS version that incorrectly sorts your tasks in the other views, we're working on it, it will be fixed in the upcoming updates.

Now, regarding the issue with sorting not working within a project (which I can't confirm/reproduce) - please go to Chrome's Advanced Settings -> Content Settings -> All cookies and site data, search for "todoist" and delete the Todoist-related entries. Reload the browser, log back in and let me know if it helps. If not, please try to create one new test project with a couple of tasks with different priorities and try to use the sort options and let me know if it works in this new project.

As for completing a task - please tell me what's the exact due date of the task you're referring to and what happens exactly when you try to complete it? Do you see the pending animation within the check box and the task won't complete?

We will consider adding other sorting options for date-based views in the future.


Best regards,
David

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michael01.bower
Replied on Feb 15, 2014 - 14:21 UTC

You are correct in that S & P work only for new projects that I create. The existing ones do not change no matter what I do. I removed the cookies and that affected nothing!
Now the project having problems was created in Android. Not sure if that has anything to do with it.

As for Completing a task, in Chrome, there is no option to complete task, only delete task!
lol... The only way I found to Complete a task in Windows, it to use the Select Check box and it completes it. Intuitive UI? Put the Complete task in the richt click pain like the other options, get ride of the Select check box!

However in Android and iPad I can Complete task and it shows up in Chrome (Windows) with lines striking through the task. Like it was crossed out.

David Trey staff
Replied on Feb 16, 2014 - 18:44 UTC

Michael,

Could you please check if moving the tasks from the project in which sorting doesn't work, to a new one help? This way it will be clearer if it's directly an issue with the project ID of the tasks themselves.

Reg. completing task - the "Select box" is actually a check box. You tick a task off using it and that will complete it. We believed such check box to be the most intuitive option for a check list, but we always appreciate any improvement suggestions and will consider it in future updates.

The crossing out option works for sub-tasks on the web (unless you hold SHIFT when completing a sub-task) and for all tasks on our mobile apps where completed tasks stay on the list until you switch the view (go to a different project and back, for example). This gives you a chance to un-complete a task in case you've completed it by mistake.


Best regards,
David

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michael01.bower
Replied on Feb 17, 2014 - 16:40 UTC

Any task created in the Android product, does not sort in any other platform. I.e. is always sites on the bottom. However, if I move that task on windows from one project to another, and then move it back it sorts properly!

David Trey staff
Replied on Feb 17, 2014 - 20:20 UTC

Michael,

I can't reproduce this issue on Android, as we've fixed some bugs in the latest version, it's possible that it no longer occurs there. If it does in version 3.1.2 and a newly added project, please let us know. Sorry for the inconvenience.


Best regards,
David

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michael01.bower
Replied on Feb 17, 2014 - 20:53 UTC

I can reproduce it 100% of the time with verision 3.1.2 Android.

Open the project I want the task in,
Create a new Task with the + button
Enter a test name,
add a Priority of Pri 1
Done. Nothing else....

The task goes to the bottom of the list 100% of the time.

David Trey staff
Replied on Feb 17, 2014 - 21:43 UTC

Michael,

That's the correct behavior. There is no permanent auto-sorting option which gives you the flexibility of being able to create a complex task and sub-task structure and still sort at any time.

That said, just to clarify - when you go to the same project through the web and then hit the "p" key to sort tasks by priority, does it work? If not, then that's indeed an issue, if it does, then new tasks will always be added at the bottom of a project unless you use the "Add task below" or "Add task above" options after selecting a task - this will add the new one at a specific place.


Best regards,
David