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Karma not correctly decreasing

WB

My Karma score is no longer reducing for postponing tasks. There is an indicator that my score has suffered because of postponing tasks, but it always only decreases by 0 total points. While this is nice for building the Karma score, it really defeats the purpose of Karma as a feature. This appears on the Web and Desktop versions of Todoist.

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Brendon Wadey staff
Replied on Feb 06, 2014 - 17:57

Hi Wayne,

We are looking into issues with Karma right now. Please tell me, if you sign out of both places, and back in again, does it change?

Regards,
Brendon.

WB
Wayne Bailey premium
Replied on Feb 07, 2014 - 07:37

This is independent of the issue where the Karma score seems to revert to a previous value and then when you click on it, it refreshes to the correct amount. When I click on Karma help to see the last few adjustments to the karma score it shows my positive Karma and in the negative column it will show the icon for postponing tasks but it is deducting 0 points.

I sign out of all instances every night when I'm done working, and I have been noticing this issue for about a week now.

David Trey staff
Replied on Feb 07, 2014 - 08:13

Hello Wayne,

Our system is no longer reducing Karma for postponing tasks. Due to some issues, complaints and many situations where tasks have to be postponed for multiple reasons, we're not reducing Karma for postponing or rescheduling anymore.


Best regards,
David

MM
Mike M premium
Replied on Feb 24, 2014 - 08:14

oh no, that's too easy now to gain points :(

is there any plan to resume it David?

Cheers,
Mike

David Trey staff
Replied on Feb 24, 2014 - 09:46

Hello Mike,

Most likely not. We've had a lot of complaints for reducing Karma for postponing when in many situations postponing is necessary for reasons beyond your control (you should make a phonecall, but no one's there, you can't complete this task, but must postpone it to tomorrow, for example). Especially in shared project, postponing may be caused by many factors.

Of course, we'll consider improving the Karma functionality in the future and will consider improving the system :-)


Best regards,
David

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Mike M premium
Replied on Feb 24, 2014 - 11:03

@David

Thanks for the follow up!

I think I'll create a Votebox entry to bring it back with ideas ;-)

i.e. an enlightened user or master user will get the penalty, as he could have used a recurring reminder/attempt rather than scheduling the call. Or if a comment was added (explaining the reason - auditing the attempt) before the postpone, makes him avoid the penalty.

But these are hard scenarios to implement, where I'm sure there are other more important things to implement! (+1)

The one case I had found buggy the Karma points calculation was due to recurring tasks, where once I completed one, the algorithm was assuming that the next "generated" task was the previous one with postponed date kind of thing, and it was removing points. (it might have been that the developers were copying the "recurring" one as is and completing it, and "postponing" the current one on their design for implementing it.

Yes, it is tricky business ;-D

Cheers,
Mike

Scott Beaudry premium
Replied on Feb 24, 2014 - 21:23

Darn, I'm in the same boat. I feel like I'm gaining too much Karma and pushing tasks should take a fair chunk away.

I hope the Todoist team has plans on finding new ways to reduce our Karma scores, there's nothing like a good challenge to make you feel like you have to get things done!