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Why don't you have what Wunderlist has?

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I've been trying to compare your app and Wunderlist and chose yours, because it has support for more platforms, but I wish to have a few things that for some reason you don't have and Wunderlist have. I paid for the premium and feel like I'm in a position to at least ask weather the devs are planning to add these features?

- Any.Do has an ability to swipe over the task to check is as done and it goes to the done list, why not to implement this simple and elegant gesture to the phones apps?

- I can't find a way to see the list of done tasks on my phone, does it exist?

- AND THE MAIN THING
Answer to this question will determine weather I'll keep using this app, or ask for a refund and go to Wunderlist.
Why don't you have subtasks?

When I add a task, I can add notes, the notes might become outdated, or I can do some of them, anyway I need an ability to swipe or tick this notes as done as well. Is it planned to add something like this?

P.S. Yes, I know I can move the tasks right or left to kinda build an hierarchy , but this is absolutely not what I'm looking for.

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Brendon Wadey staff
Replied on Jan 30, 2014 - 12:24

Hi Korj,

We had this feature on mobile, but changed it to the select option, which makes it much easier to multi select tasks and change options. We will consider adding the other option again in the future.

Completed items aren't available on the mobile platforms just yet, but we are working to bring them there.

Please explain further as to what you want from sub-tasks, as changing the indent level makes it a sub-tasks, and you can then collapse it into the parent task, which is what a sub-task is.

Regards,
Brendon.

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Korj premium
Replied on Jan 30, 2014 - 15:22

Swiping action - agree, you might right, it's faster and more convenient in terms of multiple checking, but still would be nice to have it, most of the times you check only 1 task.

Mobile done tasks - ok, good to know it will appear in the future.

Subtasks:
I've played a bit with the subtasks in PC version, I guess I can get used to it, but should it be that hard?
If I want to add a subtask, I need to create a task, place it at the correct place, click on it so that I see its options and then allign right to make it secondary.

Where's the button "add subtask"? (I've found this in android app, but can't see it on PC)
Where's an option to set behavior by default: show all subtasks \ hide all subtasks \ keep the previous view from the time the app was last opened?

And as for notes, it is so convenient to write some notes to self there, but I can only delete these notes afterwards, why not to add an ability to also check them as done or not useful anymore, i.e. make them crossed out, but still visible, same as with tasks?

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Korj premium
Replied on Jan 30, 2014 - 15:24

Oh and btw, your mail notification system alerts me about MY new message posted in this QA section, r u kidding me?

David Trey staff
Replied on Jan 30, 2014 - 16:45

Hello Korj,

To create sub-task, you just need to hit the "a" key and then Ctrl+RightArrow to indent it. That's it. In fact, once you add it with Enter, you can add another one for quick entry. If you want to add one below an already existing task - right-click -> Add task below and then again Ctrl+RightArrow which you can use multiple times to make it a sub-sub-tasks on up to 4 indent levels.

Nonetheless, we appreciate your feedback and will consider improving this in the future.

Reg. the email about your reply - we're sorry for any inconvenience it caused you, but we think it's great to have a proof that your message has reached us (we get these notifications too) and you can always refer to it and the ID of the support thread you've posted in, but again, we're sorry if it caused you any problems, you can unsubscribe from these notifications anytime.


Best regards,
David

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Korj premium
Replied on Jan 31, 2014 - 06:20

Well, yes, it works, but is not even close to being convenient (

I really wish you add an ability to cross out the notes.
Writting and sending with enter is faster then even with hotkeys adding the task and aligning it to the right..

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Nouf Al-Abbas premium
Replied on Jan 31, 2014 - 06:26

Could the developers of this app please try Wunderlist to understand what we are talking about? In an ideal world, I would choose Wunderlist over Todoist if only it had the plugins that make it available on more platforms (e.g. Outlook, Chrome, etc.)

If I were using a to do list app ONLY FOR MYSELF, I would use Wunderlist. The reason I chose Todoist is because my team members don't like having to go to a separate window to input their updates. Todoist makes sharing easier, but it does not have the same beautiful features or elegance of Wunderlist.

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Korj premium
Replied on Jan 31, 2014 - 08:21

Totally agree.
For me Todoist only because it has more platforms, but Wunderlist is truly more convenient.

According to the ads todoist placed on it's site I have a month to see if it works for me, if no changes will occur, I will really consider ask for a refund and switch to Wunderlist (

David Trey staff
Replied on Jan 31, 2014 - 08:43

Hello,

Of course we're looking at our competitors' solutions, but we're also listening to our users' feedback and have our own vision of a sleek, clean and simple tool. I've created some sub-tasks in Wunderlist right now and I couldn't even see them without double-clicking on the parent task. Adding a sub-task took me the exact same amount of clicks as on Todoist. I couldn't add a date to any sub-task and experienced multiple other inconveniences.

Of course, everyone has a different workflow and we're aware that it's impossible to meet all expectations, though we'll always continue to improve our app to make it as flexible and as convenient for most workflows and we greatly appreciate every suggestion you post, discuss them and plan our improvements based on the demand for features, but of course want to maintain some of the core design choices our users chose to use Todoist for.


Best regard,
David

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Korj premium
Replied on Jan 31, 2014 - 09:52

Agree, it's is a serious plus for u that I can see subtasks for all tasks without clicking on the main task itself. If only you could improve the subtask system..

I'm adding tasks from my work email and I can only save them, and after that I click on them again to replace and to align left or right (
If you could improve the speed and convenience of this process, would be just awesome!

Anyway, good to know I'm getting response from devs about this, will hope for the best!

David Trey staff
Replied on Jan 31, 2014 - 10:16

Korj,

There's actually a quick way to indent an already added task without editing it (within a project) hover over it to see the the drag & drop handle on the left, "grab" it by the handle and while holding it, use the number keys 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 to set its indent level. You can go over tasks like this and the process will be much faster than edit -> Intent -> save.


Best regards,
David

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Geoff Robles premium
Replied on Feb 04, 2014 - 15:30

To add more to this discussion, it would be nice to allow new tasks to be created at the same level as the task above it. For example, if I am creating sub-tasks under a task, it would be convenient to have each new task go in as a subtask instead of a regular task that I have to move to a subtask.

David Trey staff
Replied on Feb 04, 2014 - 15:52

Hello Geoff,

That's already possible. Enter a project, right-click on the parent task, choose "Add task below and indent the input box before you save it. When you use Enter to save it, it will not only already be a sub-task, but the next input field will open already on the indented level you've used before.


Best regards,
David

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Korj premium
Replied on Feb 19, 2014 - 09:17

David,

And why are comments deleting after marking the task as done?

It's irrational to let ppl see the done tasks, but erase the comments.
I often do the task and mark it as done, but afterwards I'm asked what was done, I look for a task and all I can see is it's name and that it's done. All my notes and steps I've taken are gone! =(
May I ask the dev team to fix this or add it as an option (save or delete notes after clicking done)?

Andreas N. premium
Replied on Feb 19, 2014 - 10:31

Todoist has a lot of more features than Wunderlist. Wunderlist's subtasks-feature is very poor, you can't even add due dates to them. And the subtasks are very hidden. Additionally, I think the pro-Version of Wunderlist is much too expensive!

I love Todoist!

David Trey staff
Replied on Feb 19, 2014 - 12:25

Hello Korj,

Your notes should certainly not be removed when you complete a task. Please tell me - how can you reproduce this step-by-step (what platforms, shared or private projects etc.)?

Also, do you not see the notes from the "View completed tasks" option in a project or the "View All Completed" feature from the Karma score (or both)?


Best regards,
David

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Korj premium
Replied on Feb 19, 2014 - 14:32

Oh cool!
I updated Todoist and notes are now visible for all tasks )
Problem solved.

Anyway I have another question\idea: would be kinda nice to have some soft of shortened time stamp for tasks. I know the old ones are on top, the newer on the bottom, but it would be nice to instantly see when was the task created and when was the latest note made to know if it's already a time check on the task or you checked on it 3 days ago and it's too soon to look into it again. Something like this.
Cause now to know how old is the task and when was the latest thing made you have to open the notes section for each task, which is kinda problematically when you have 50+ pending tasks..

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Nick K premium
Replied on Feb 19, 2014 - 15:01

David, Brandon....

Please-please, DO NOT add swipe for task completion again!

Of all features that got on a chopping block for Todoist Next, this is the victim whose merciless execution I wholeheartedly applaud. Hell, I'm willing to pay premium over premium NOT to have it ever again.

Why? Because your sliding out navigation/menu panel on the left severely conflicts with the swiping action. I can't count how many times I ended up completing a task instead of getting back to the list of projects. Sure, you can have a swipe from right to left but that's just not natural for most people used to left-to-right text direction. It will confuse the hell out of them.

So, good riddance! No more silly swiping around.

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Korj premium
Replied on Feb 19, 2014 - 16:57

Nick, as u've mentioned swipe from right to left is a solution to the problem.
To my mind settings is a key to overall comfort.
It's stupid to turn the feature on and off in updates, it's wise to add features in settings, so that people can turn whatever they need on and off.

Of course there should be a standard mode for retards that are scared to go in settings and advanced mode for people that understand what they'r doing and can make the app be 100 % useful for them!

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Korj premium
Replied on Feb 19, 2014 - 17:35

Comments bug's not gone (

All tasks are showed to have notes, but when I open the notes, it's empty..

Brendon Wadey staff
Replied on Feb 19, 2014 - 17:55

Korj,

We would love to add everything as an option, but we have to be picky about these things, otherwise eventually our menus would be filled with options and make everything complicated. We will take that into account though.

As for the Notes, to refresh, this is on the web version (which browser) does it occur anywhere else, as in does the notes go away in the desktop app, or anywhere?

Regards,
Brendon.

R López premium
Replied on Feb 19, 2014 - 20:58

korj,

Wunderlist look nice but sync IS HELL. I have to discard it, because without a good sync, it is not functional to works. (windows app, mac apps , web and phone app never have the same info).

Other thing, wunderlist only have one level of substask.

The only functional thing that I miss from wunderlist is the desktop reminders.

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Korj premium
Replied on Feb 21, 2014 - 07:31

Brendon,

I realize you have to be picky, BUT for regular users. That's why I've suggested to implement the "show advanced" option, so that until you click it you see very limited, i.e. meticulously picked option AND if you click show advanced (or expert) - you see all options!

It can even be made harder, for example like an unlocking process with all the BIG RED WARNINGS, saying that THIS IS ONLY FOR EXPERTS, IF U DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, USE REGULAR OPTIONS. Well, sth like this..

But this will lead to full comfort for all classes of users, even though it might be harder to develop such an app, but Todoist proudly claims to be the best "to do" app there is, so I consider this might be possible for you )

As for the notes bug, I guess the app got updated and now I see all the notes, so I guess this time I can say the bug's fixed, thank you! )

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Korj premium
Replied on Feb 21, 2014 - 18:29

R Lopez,

Reminders is the thing I still don't understand. What's that system when u can set it only by writing tomorrow 18:40 or sth like that, still not sure how to use it, but that's probably because I haven't really had reasons to use it yet.

R López premium
Replied on Feb 21, 2014 - 19:29

yes, you have small notes in a tiny box in one corner of the screen, to remind you things to do.

R López premium
Replied on Feb 24, 2014 - 06:39

also, wunderlist has separated scrolls for task and proyects.

R López premium
Replied on Feb 27, 2014 - 07:48

Remider ar great Beacuse they FORCE YOU TO PAY ATTENTION.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bshdihdec8hxzaq/reminders.jpg

also have sounds.


Ryan premium
Replied on Mar 21, 2014 - 12:52

Wunderlist sync did not work with our teams... we had several people on different platforms... it could not keep our lists in sync at all.. We would get emails from a team member completing the same item 30-45 times within an hour or get 20 notifications about 1 comment. Todoist is simple, clean, cheaper and sync works!